Discussion:
"If It Takes A Lifetime"
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brian
2006-06-06 19:10:49 UTC
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I can't stop listening to this song. It is as good as anything on CT97 and
I honestly think it could be a hit. I'd like to see some Old School AMCT
reviews. What do you guys think? My first reaction to the cd was it's
better then "Special One" but no "CT97". I have to say it's getting better
and better every spin and I'm starting to think it may be a truly GREAT
album.
Smak!
2006-06-06 19:49:03 UTC
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Post by brian
I can't stop listening to this song. It is as good as anything on CT97 and
I honestly think it could be a hit. I'd like to see some Old School AMCT
reviews. What do you guys think? My first reaction to the cd was it's
better then "Special One" but no "CT97". I have to say it's getting better
and better every spin and I'm starting to think it may be a truly GREAT
album.
Best song on the CD but not my favorite.. I think it would have been
better if RZ had used his "The Flame" voice for the verses rather then
the one he used here. It's a bit too wimpy sounding. But once the chorus
starts it really kicks in and is very catchy. Great backing vocals.

This CD is wayyy better than SO, and on a whole better than CT97.

Give It Away is my favorite tune..

Jeff
M.Hart
2006-06-08 22:08:01 UTC
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Post by Smak!
Post by brian
I can't stop listening to this song. It is as good as anything on CT97
and I honestly think it could be a hit. I'd like to see some Old School
AMCT reviews. What do you guys think? My first reaction to the cd was
it's better then "Special One" but no "CT97". I have to say it's getting
better and better every spin and I'm starting to think it may be a truly
GREAT album.
Best song on the CD but not my favorite.. I think it would have been
better if RZ had used his "The Flame" voice for the verses rather then the
one he used here. It's a bit too wimpy sounding. But once the chorus
starts it really kicks in and is very catchy. Great backing vocals.
This CD is wayyy better than SO, and on a whole better than CT97.
Give It Away is my favorite tune..
Jeff
I really like this album... no favorite songs yet (ok... "Give It Away" is
close) just really enjoyable from start to finish.

Well done Boys!

Mitch
Smak!
2006-06-08 23:13:42 UTC
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Post by M.Hart
I really like this album... no favorite songs yet (ok... "Give It Away" is
close) just really enjoyable from start to finish.
Well done Boys!
I think they did a really good job here..

I'm re-woodchipping my whole yard this week, and I've found myself
humming tunes off this CD as I'm doing it.. The first night was Come On
Come On Come On, and today it was Perfect Stranger.

Perhaps they finally started listening to all the "assholes" that hated
that lame Special One CD from the get go, instead of the ass kissers who
just loved it then, but now say they don't like it?

Jeff
Nicodemus
2006-06-09 16:29:02 UTC
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It will "take a lifetime" for me to like this new album.
Smak I respect your opinion; especially because I know that you don't
impress easily. But I gotta be honest-I just don't hear much on this album
that grabs me. And I have been listening to it in the car and really trying
to give it a chance. There might be a few gems on here but I will go out on
a limb when I say that I liked Special One much, much better.. (Hummer
notwithstanding). I could listen to SO all day. It was creative and catchy.
"Rockford" sounds like about 75% filler and outtakes. I mean no offense. I
hate to sound so hard on them. I guess they're not going to hit a home run
every time they come to bat.

"Give It Away" is decent. This song "Come on, Come On"..are you kidding?
What do you like about it? The frenzied pace? That song is repetitive, the
lyrics are retarded, and what's with that intro?! Do you like the song
"One More Day"?
Post by Smak!
Post by M.Hart
I really like this album... no favorite songs yet (ok... "Give It Away"
is close) just really enjoyable from start to finish.
Well done Boys!
I think they did a really good job here..
I'm re-woodchipping my whole yard this week, and I've found myself humming
tunes off this CD as I'm doing it.. The first night was Come On Come On
Come On, and today it was Perfect Stranger.
Perhaps they finally started listening to all the "assholes" that hated
that lame Special One CD from the get go, instead of the ass kissers who
just loved it then, but now say they don't like it?
Jeff
brian
2006-06-09 16:48:38 UTC
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I'm one of the "Ass Kissers" that did not hate "Special One". It certainly
was not up to the standard set by "CT97" but I did not think it was anywhere
near as bad as it was getting ripped on here. But I do think the new album
totally blows it away. And it's easy to now look back and see the "Special
One" era as a slump in creativity. Nicodemus your review is the first
negative comments I have seen on Rockford yet anywhere. You are entitled to
your opinion but I personally hear very little filler on this album and
definitely less then "Special One".
Post by Nicodemus
It will "take a lifetime" for me to like this new album.
Smak I respect your opinion; especially because I know that you don't
impress easily. But I gotta be honest-I just don't hear much on this album
that grabs me. And I have been listening to it in the car and really
trying to give it a chance. There might be a few gems on here but I will
go out on a limb when I say that I liked Special One much, much better..
(Hummer notwithstanding). I could listen to SO all day. It was creative
and catchy. "Rockford" sounds like about 75% filler and outtakes. I mean
no offense. I hate to sound so hard on them. I guess they're not going to
hit a home run every time they come to bat.
"Give It Away" is decent. This song "Come on, Come On"..are you kidding?
What do you like about it? The frenzied pace? That song is repetitive, the
lyrics are retarded, and what's with that intro?! Do you like the song
"One More Day"?
Post by Smak!
Post by M.Hart
I really like this album... no favorite songs yet (ok... "Give It
Away" is close) just really enjoyable from start to finish.
Well done Boys!
I think they did a really good job here..
I'm re-woodchipping my whole yard this week, and I've found myself
humming tunes off this CD as I'm doing it.. The first night was Come On
Come On Come On, and today it was Perfect Stranger.
Perhaps they finally started listening to all the "assholes" that hated
that lame Special One CD from the get go, instead of the ass kissers who
just loved it then, but now say they don't like it?
Jeff
John
2006-06-09 17:16:39 UTC
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I'm with you on this one, Brian. I was listening to SO in the car today,
the first time I've listened to it in quite awhile. It just doesn't do
anything for me. There are a couple of good songs, but most of it
doesn't excite me. Rockford, on the other hand, has grabbed me more than
a new release by ANY of the bands I like has done in quite awhile. I
haven't yet decided if I like it better than CT97, which I think is also
a great CT album.

Yes, Come On Come On doesn't have outstanding lyrics, but musically it
kicks ass, and that's what I think Cheap Trick has always done best. But
the fact that others have differing opinions just points out the
difficulty a band has in trying to come up with a mix of material that
will please the most potential buyers. I'm glad I don't have to make
those decisions!

John
Post by brian
I'm one of the "Ass Kissers" that did not hate "Special One". It certainly
was not up to the standard set by "CT97" but I did not think it was anywhere
near as bad as it was getting ripped on here. But I do think the new album
totally blows it away. And it's easy to now look back and see the "Special
One" era as a slump in creativity. Nicodemus your review is the first
negative comments I have seen on Rockford yet anywhere. You are entitled to
your opinion but I personally hear very little filler on this album and
definitely less then "Special One".
Post by Nicodemus
It will "take a lifetime" for me to like this new album.
Smak I respect your opinion; especially because I know that you don't
impress easily. But I gotta be honest-I just don't hear much on this album
that grabs me. And I have been listening to it in the car and really
trying to give it a chance. There might be a few gems on here but I will
go out on a limb when I say that I liked Special One much, much better..
(Hummer notwithstanding). I could listen to SO all day. It was creative
and catchy. "Rockford" sounds like about 75% filler and outtakes. I mean
no offense. I hate to sound so hard on them. I guess they're not going to
hit a home run every time they come to bat.
"Give It Away" is decent. This song "Come on, Come On"..are you kidding?
What do you like about it? The frenzied pace? That song is repetitive, the
lyrics are retarded, and what's with that intro?! Do you like the song
"One More Day"?
Post by Smak!
Post by M.Hart
I really like this album... no favorite songs yet (ok... "Give It
Away" is close) just really enjoyable from start to finish.
Well done Boys!
I think they did a really good job here..
I'm re-woodchipping my whole yard this week, and I've found myself
humming tunes off this CD as I'm doing it.. The first night was Come On
Come On Come On, and today it was Perfect Stranger.
Perhaps they finally started listening to all the "assholes" that hated
that lame Special One CD from the get go, instead of the ass kissers who
just loved it then, but now say they don't like it?
Jeff
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Nicodemus
2006-06-09 19:16:23 UTC
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Hi. I am hoping that Jeff or someone else can give me a song by song
breakdown...maybe you guys are hearing something that I ain't. Track 10 and
11 are enjoyable.
I am still listening to it in the car. Maybe I will be "struck by lightning
on the road to Damascus", musically speaking.

In my opinion Special One was innovative and creative. It reminded me of my
other favorite CT album "All Shook Up", which so many fans and critics alike
also panned.

I am going to keep listening to "Rockford". But I think that good music
should not require effort and self-discipline from the listener. That seems
silly.

Is there 1 track on "Rockford" that has the same punch as "My Obsession"?
Or the raw power of "My Best Friend"? I don't think so. I wish that Robin's
vocals on "If It Takes a Lifetime" had the same strength as his vocals on
the title track of Special One or "Words".
Post by brian
I'm one of the "Ass Kissers" that did not hate "Special One". It
certainly was not up to the standard set by "CT97" but I did not think it
was anywhere near as bad as it was getting ripped on here. But I do think
the new album totally blows it away. And it's easy to now look back and
see the "Special One" era as a slump in creativity. Nicodemus your review
is the first negative comments I have seen on Rockford yet anywhere. You
are entitled to your opinion but I personally hear very little filler on
this album and definitely less then "Special One".
Post by Nicodemus
It will "take a lifetime" for me to like this new album.
Smak I respect your opinion; especially because I know that you don't
impress easily. But I gotta be honest-I just don't hear much on this
album that grabs me. And I have been listening to it in the car and
really trying to give it a chance. There might be a few gems on here but
I will go out on a limb when I say that I liked Special One much, much
better.. (Hummer notwithstanding). I could listen to SO all day. It was
creative and catchy. "Rockford" sounds like about 75% filler and
outtakes. I mean no offense. I hate to sound so hard on them. I guess
they're not going to hit a home run every time they come to bat.
"Give It Away" is decent. This song "Come on, Come On"..are you kidding?
What do you like about it? The frenzied pace? That song is repetitive,
the lyrics are retarded, and what's with that intro?! Do you like the
song "One More Day"?
Post by Smak!
Post by M.Hart
I really like this album... no favorite songs yet (ok... "Give It
Away" is close) just really enjoyable from start to finish.
Well done Boys!
I think they did a really good job here..
I'm re-woodchipping my whole yard this week, and I've found myself
humming tunes off this CD as I'm doing it.. The first night was Come On
Come On Come On, and today it was Perfect Stranger.
Perhaps they finally started listening to all the "assholes" that hated
that lame Special One CD from the get go, instead of the ass kissers who
just loved it then, but now say they don't like it?
Jeff
Smak!
2006-06-09 22:56:39 UTC
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Post by Nicodemus
Hi. I am hoping that Jeff or someone else can give me a song by song
breakdown...maybe you guys are hearing something that I ain't.
I already did it somewhere on the CT boreds.. I'll try and find that post.
Post by Nicodemus
Is there 1 track on "Rockford" that has the same punch as "My Obsession"?
I think think MO has any punch at all..
Post by Nicodemus
Or the raw power of "My Best Friend"? I don't think so. I wish that Robin's
vocals on "If It Takes a Lifetime" had the same strength as his vocals on
the title track of Special One or "Words".
Best Friend is a filler tune with RZ screaming along and Words.. Yuck. I
just don't like it or any tune off that CD at all.

Jeff
billguy
2006-06-09 23:47:41 UTC
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Best thing from SO was "Pop Drone". Other than that, I thought the band
should have hung it up if that was the best they could do after CT 97.

billguy
Post by Smak!
Post by Nicodemus
Hi. I am hoping that Jeff or someone else can give me a song by song
breakdown...maybe you guys are hearing something that I ain't.
I already did it somewhere on the CT boreds.. I'll try and find that post.
Post by Nicodemus
Is there 1 track on "Rockford" that has the same punch as "My Obsession"?
I think think MO has any punch at all..
Post by Nicodemus
Or the raw power of "My Best Friend"? I don't think so. I wish that
Robin's vocals on "If It Takes a Lifetime" had the same strength as his
vocals on the title track of Special One or "Words".
Best Friend is a filler tune with RZ screaming along and Words.. Yuck. I
just don't like it or any tune off that CD at all.
Jeff
Mark Mathu
2006-06-12 05:41:45 UTC
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Post by Nicodemus
Is there 1 track on "Rockford" that has the same punch as "My Obsession"?
Or the raw power of "My Best Friend"? I don't think so. I wish that
Robin's vocals on "If It Takes a Lifetime" had the same strength as his
vocals on the title track of Special One or "Words".
My first listenings to Rockford has me wondering the same thing... The
vocals seem _restrained_ (if that's the proper word) compared to "Special
One."
sandman89
2006-06-12 12:00:21 UTC
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***@mathu.com (Mark=A0Mathu)

My first listenings to Rockford has me wondering the same thing... The
vocals seem _restrained_ (if that's the proper word) compared to
"Special One."


### yeah, i can kind of see where you're coming from.



"I am not a tough guy. I'm a tough negotiator. But outside of that, I'm
a patsy."
-Sumner Redstone, CEO of Viacom
Dayna
2006-06-12 13:03:24 UTC
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***@mathu.com (Mark Mathu)

My first listenings to Rockford has me wondering the same thing... The
vocals seem _restrained_ (if that's the proper word) compared to
"Special One."


### yeah, i can kind of see where you're coming from.


Some of them don't even sound like Robin - there's one song
in particular that I'm thinking of - I'll have to listen again
and see which one.......
Nicodemus
2006-06-12 21:32:34 UTC
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I hope all those Marlboros aren't finally catching up to him.


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***@mathu.com (Mark Mathu)

My first listenings to Rockford has me wondering the same thing... The
vocals seem _restrained_ (if that's the proper word) compared to
"Special One."


### yeah, i can kind of see where you're coming from.


Some of them don't even sound like Robin - there's one song
in particular that I'm thinking of - I'll have to listen again
and see which one.......
CraigS
2006-06-13 01:43:03 UTC
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Post by Dayna
Some of them don't even sound like Robin - there's one song
in particular that I'm thinking of - I'll have to listen again
and see which one.......
The one where Tom sings backing vocals? <ducks>
BoneMachine
2006-07-11 13:30:12 UTC
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To my ears, Special One didn't have a lot of energy in the tracks. Too
many slow or mid-tempo songs and not enough songs with kick. Scent Of
A Woman had cool music, but the lyrics were pretty lame. On the
initial spins, I found myself skipping to the next track until I
realized that I'd zipped through half the disc and the second half
wasn't a lot better. I guess while I'm Rodney King-ing Special One, I
will add that I hated the cover art, as well.

Now on to Rockford. When CT.com previewed three tunes, I instantly
hated Welcome To The World (I still pretty much hate the lyrics,
especially that shit about the birthday), thought they should retitle
Come On..., and sort of liked Perfect Stranger. In other words, I
fully expected to hate Rockford when I bought it. As it turns out,
there's something oddly addicting about it. I haven't listened to it
in weeks, but when I got it, several tunes got stuck in the noggin and
it wasn't an unpleasant experience. Now that all of the shitpot of new
releases is settling down, I need to revisit Rockford and see if I
still like it.
sandman89
2006-07-11 21:57:05 UTC
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***@gmail.com

To my ears, Special One didn't have a lot of energy in the tracks. Too
many slow or mid-tempo songs and not enough songs with kick.

@@ totally agree- waaay too many mid-tempo tracks and virtually no
rockers. it made for a snoozer of an album.



I instantly hated Welcome To The World (I still pretty much hate the
lyrics, especially that shit about the birthday), thought they should
retitle Come On...,

@@ i'd have left welcome to the world off the album, aswell, and i don't
like the hook for come on, so i agree with you there, too.



"I am not a tough guy. I'm a tough negotiator. But outside of that, I'm
a patsy."
-Sumner Redstone, CEO of Viacom

Smak!
2006-06-09 22:52:02 UTC
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Post by brian
I'm one of the "Ass Kissers" that did not hate "Special One".
I'm not talking about you when I say the ass kissers Bri..

Jeff
Zep
2006-06-13 13:40:19 UTC
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Oh, I feel "Special One" was every bit as bad as the fans said it was. A
friend of mine gave me a copy his store had received as an advanced promo
because he knew I was a huge fan. After a couple of listens I took it back
to him. He looked at me and said "That bad, huh?" I'm not saying all the
songs sucked, there were a couple of keepers but as I listened to it all I
could think was "WTF were they thinking???" Not even the Doctor or Woke Up
With a Monster come as close to the piece of crap known as Special One.

----- Original Message -----
From: "brian"
Subject: Re: "If It Takes A Lifetime"
Post by brian
I'm one of the "Ass Kissers" that did not hate "Special One". It
certainly was not up to the standard set by "CT97" but I did not think it
was anywhere near as bad as it was getting ripped on here.
Nicodemus
2006-06-14 14:51:18 UTC
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The mid-tempo songs on Special One threw people for a loop, but I think they
are catchy and melodic. And like others have posted here, Robin's vocals
sounded stronger. I will say that Rick's guitar work stands out. Okay, so
you listened to the first 2 tracks. Now "Scent of a Woman" starts slow and
builds up and by the end it rocks. And listen to the title track "Special
One" Now granted, at first you will hear the Japanese thing and think "What
the sh*t is this?! ?!" But the song builds up. It has strong vocal range
and listen to the guitar, too. Pop Drone is a good song for Tom. "My Best"
Friend, well...I like it a lot, but Smak said that it is filler with Robin
simply screaming. To each his own opinion. Now a lot of people blast
Special One based on the last 2 songs. Hummer and that Kazoo thing. Not a
fair assessment of the rest of the album's strengths.

I guess I will be the apologist for Special One. As we know, it is
impossible to please all the fans with every new release. Different
generations, different tastes, and we hear different things. I am just
grateful that they are still together and playing after all these years and
still doing great shows. Special One took me a couple listens to like it as
much as I do and I have played it hundreds of times. I am glad that they are
at least coming up with some new stuff. There are bands out there like
Chicago who just milk the old hits for all they're worth and keep
re-releasing them. I was afraid that CT was going that route too, but I am
glad that they are out of that dry spell and they have a label and 2 new
albums in 2 years.
Post by Zep
Oh, I feel "Special One" was every bit as bad as the fans said it was. A
friend of mine gave me a copy his store had received as an advanced promo
because he knew I was a huge fan. After a couple of listens I took it back
to him. He looked at me and said "That bad, huh?" I'm not saying all the
songs sucked, there were a couple of keepers but as I listened to it all I
could think was "WTF were they thinking???" Not even the Doctor or Woke Up
With a Monster come as close to the piece of crap known as Special One.
----- Original Message -----
From: "brian"
Subject: Re: "If It Takes A Lifetime"
Post by brian
I'm one of the "Ass Kissers" that did not hate "Special One". It
certainly was not up to the standard set by "CT97" but I did not think it
was anywhere near as bad as it was getting ripped on here.
sandman89
2006-06-14 17:37:44 UTC
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special one had waaaay too many mid temped songs. this new one is better
just for the fact that it's much more uptempo. too many mid tempoed
songs put you to sleep. cheap trick is a *rock* band, afterall.




"I am not a tough guy. I'm a tough negotiator. But outside of that, I'm
a patsy."
-Sumner Redstone, CEO of Viacom
ctrick99
2006-06-14 22:21:54 UTC
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I have to admit I am one who liked Special One alot. I've listened to it
hundreds of times. Rockford is better, but, to me, Special One was good.
Post by Nicodemus
The mid-tempo songs on Special One threw people for a loop, but I think they
are catchy and melodic. And like others have posted here, Robin's vocals
sounded stronger. I will say that Rick's guitar work stands out. Okay, so
you listened to the first 2 tracks. Now "Scent of a Woman" starts slow and
builds up and by the end it rocks. And listen to the title track "Special
One" Now granted, at first you will hear the Japanese thing and think "What
the sh*t is this?! ?!" But the song builds up. It has strong vocal range
and listen to the guitar, too. Pop Drone is a good song for Tom. "My Best"
Friend, well...I like it a lot, but Smak said that it is filler with Robin
simply screaming. To each his own opinion. Now a lot of people blast
Special One based on the last 2 songs. Hummer and that Kazoo thing. Not a
fair assessment of the rest of the album's strengths.
I guess I will be the apologist for Special One. As we know, it is
impossible to please all the fans with every new release. Different
generations, different tastes, and we hear different things. I am just
grateful that they are still together and playing after all these years and
still doing great shows. Special One took me a couple listens to like it as
much as I do and I have played it hundreds of times. I am glad that they are
at least coming up with some new stuff. There are bands out there like
Chicago who just milk the old hits for all they're worth and keep
re-releasing them. I was afraid that CT was going that route too, but I am
glad that they are out of that dry spell and they have a label and 2 new
albums in 2 years.
Post by Zep
Oh, I feel "Special One" was every bit as bad as the fans said it was. A
friend of mine gave me a copy his store had received as an advanced promo
because he knew I was a huge fan. After a couple of listens I took it back
to him. He looked at me and said "That bad, huh?" I'm not saying all the
songs sucked, there were a couple of keepers but as I listened to it all I
could think was "WTF were they thinking???" Not even the Doctor or Woke Up
With a Monster come as close to the piece of crap known as Special One.
----- Original Message -----
From: "brian"
Subject: Re: "If It Takes A Lifetime"
Post by brian
I'm one of the "Ass Kissers" that did not hate "Special One". It
certainly was not up to the standard set by "CT97" but I did not think it
was anywhere near as bad as it was getting ripped on here.
mellstrrr
2006-06-15 23:08:31 UTC
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Post by ctrick99
I have to admit I am one who liked Special One alot. I've listened to it
hundreds of times. Rockford is better, but, to me, Special One was good.
Same here, I was quite fond of it, and found it to be one of their
stronger works. The last two songs were...well, silly! But as a whole, I
found Special One to be quite good, with a lot of commercial potential. I
am still shocked that it went nowhere fast, hell, it ran rings around some
of the mid-eighties stuff...
Post by ctrick99
Post by Nicodemus
The mid-tempo songs on Special One threw people for a loop, but I think
they
Post by Nicodemus
are catchy and melodic. And like others have posted here, Robin's vocals
sounded stronger. I will say that Rick's guitar work stands out. Okay, so
you listened to the first 2 tracks. Now "Scent of a Woman" starts slow and
builds up and by the end it rocks. And listen to the title track "Special
One" Now granted, at first you will hear the Japanese thing and think
"What
Post by Nicodemus
the sh*t is this?! ?!" But the song builds up. It has strong vocal range
and listen to the guitar, too. Pop Drone is a good song for Tom. "My
Best"
Post by Nicodemus
Friend, well...I like it a lot, but Smak said that it is filler with Robin
simply screaming. To each his own opinion. Now a lot of people blast
Special One based on the last 2 songs. Hummer and that Kazoo thing. Not a
fair assessment of the rest of the album's strengths.
I guess I will be the apologist for Special One. As we know, it is
impossible to please all the fans with every new release. Different
generations, different tastes, and we hear different things. I am just
grateful that they are still together and playing after all these years
and
Post by Nicodemus
still doing great shows. Special One took me a couple listens to like
it
as
Post by Nicodemus
much as I do and I have played it hundreds of times. I am glad that they
are
Post by Nicodemus
at least coming up with some new stuff. There are bands out there like
Chicago who just milk the old hits for all they're worth and keep
re-releasing them. I was afraid that CT was going that route too, but I am
glad that they are out of that dry spell and they have a label and 2 new
albums in 2 years.
Post by Zep
Oh, I feel "Special One" was every bit as bad as the fans said it
was. A
Post by Zep
friend of mine gave me a copy his store had received as an advanced
promo
Post by Nicodemus
Post by Zep
because he knew I was a huge fan. After a couple of listens I took it
back
Post by Nicodemus
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to him. He looked at me and said "That bad, huh?" I'm not saying all
the
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songs sucked, there were a couple of keepers but as I listened to it
all
I
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could think was "WTF were they thinking???" Not even the Doctor or
Woke
Up
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With a Monster come as close to the piece of crap known as Special
One.
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From: "brian"
Subject: Re: "If It Takes A Lifetime"
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I'm one of the "Ass Kissers" that did not hate "Special One". It
certainly was not up to the standard set by "CT97" but I did not
think
it
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was anywhere near as bad as it was getting ripped on here.
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CraigS
2006-06-16 03:23:44 UTC
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The mid-tempo songs on Special One threw people for a loop, but I think they
are catchy and melodic.
My peeves:

La la la, la-la-la-la la-la lah. (x 3).

"When Will I See You Again" aka "Too Much"

The last two songs.

The six year wait.

It wasn't the tempo, it was the "several so-so songs on a Cheap Trick
album" thing. I like "My Obsession", "Pop Drone", the last part of the
title cut, and parts of other songs, but I'm really glad the new album
is so much better.
Smak!
2006-06-09 22:47:14 UTC
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It will "take a lifetime" for me to like this new album.
Smak I respect your opinion; especially because I know that you don't
impress easily. But I gotta be honest-I just don't hear much on this album
that grabs me. And I have been listening to it in the car and really trying
to give it a chance. There might be a few gems on here but I will go out on
a limb when I say that I liked Special One much, much better.. (Hummer
notwithstanding). I could listen to SO all day. It was creative and catchy.
Everyone seems to like CT in a certain way. Not all of us hear them the
same way. I remember talking to a lady here years ago about the tunes,
and almost every song she liked, I hated (Or didn't care for..) and
every song she hated I loved. The only other band I can think of like
this is the Stones.
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"Rockford" sounds like about 75% filler and outtakes. I mean no offense. I
hate to sound so hard on them. I guess they're not going to hit a home run
every time they come to bat.
"Give It Away" is decent. This song "Come on, Come On"..are you kidding?
What do you like about it? The frenzied pace? That song is repetitive, the
lyrics are retarded, and what's with that intro?! Do you like the song
"One More Day"?
I don't really like CO CO CO that much but it is catchy. I'd rather hear
a fast song that I don't care for, than a medium or slow tempo one. I
like that intro too.

Jeff
Nicodemus
2006-06-10 04:42:34 UTC
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What was your opinion of WUWAM?
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Post by Nicodemus
It will "take a lifetime" for me to like this new album.
Smak I respect your opinion; especially because I know that you don't
impress easily. But I gotta be honest-I just don't hear much on this
album that grabs me. And I have been listening to it in the car and
really trying to give it a chance. There might be a few gems on here but
I will go out on a limb when I say that I liked Special One much, much
better.. (Hummer notwithstanding). I could listen to SO all day. It was
creative and catchy.
Everyone seems to like CT in a certain way. Not all of us hear them the
same way. I remember talking to a lady here years ago about the tunes, and
almost every song she liked, I hated (Or didn't care for..) and every song
she hated I loved. The only other band I can think of like this is the
Stones.
Post by Nicodemus
"Rockford" sounds like about 75% filler and outtakes. I mean no offense.
I hate to sound so hard on them. I guess they're not going to hit a home
run every time they come to bat.
"Give It Away" is decent. This song "Come on, Come On"..are you kidding?
What do you like about it? The frenzied pace? That song is repetitive,
the lyrics are retarded, and what's with that intro?! Do you like the
song "One More Day"?
I don't really like CO CO CO that much but it is catchy. I'd rather hear a
fast song that I don't care for, than a medium or slow tempo one. I like
that intro too.
Jeff
SweetHP
2006-06-17 05:10:08 UTC
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Post by Smak!
Everyone seems to like CT in a certain way. Not all of us hear them the
same way. I remember talking to a lady here years ago about the tunes, and
almost every song she liked, I hated (Or didn't care for..) and every song
she hated I loved. The only other band I can think of like this is the
Stones.
Gee Jeffy...could that have been me?!

Lynn ;-)
billguy
2006-06-06 22:09:11 UTC
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Have you ever listened to a CT release for the first time & you didn't like
it at first, but the more you listened to it, the better it got? That's the
best.

Thumbs up here!

billguy
Post by brian
I can't stop listening to this song. It is as good as anything on CT97 and
I honestly think it could be a hit. I'd like to see some Old School AMCT
reviews. What do you guys think? My first reaction to the cd was it's
better then "Special One" but no "CT97". I have to say it's getting better
and better every spin and I'm starting to think it may be a truly GREAT
album.
christin
2006-06-07 00:06:48 UTC
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I can't stop listening to this song. It is as good as anything on CT97 and
I honestly think it could be a hit. I'd like to see some Old School AMCT
reviews. What do you guys think? My first reaction to the cd was it's
better then "Special One" but no "CT97". I have to say it's getting better
and better every spin and I'm starting to think it may be a truly GREAT
album.
This Old School AMCT reviewer says that for all the years they kept
saying they'd never release "All Those Years", they were wrong! Just
based on the inclusion of this one song thrills me to no end. Now to
turn off the repeat button and actually listen to the entire album one
of these days.
Mark Mathu
2006-06-10 05:21:28 UTC
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Honest, fellas, it sounds great, but... I could have used a little more
cowbell.
sandman89
2006-06-11 14:35:08 UTC
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the first few listens didn't do a whole lot for me. then it started
growing on me once i paid a little more attention. i think it was
because a few of the early tracks aren't my faves, so it was hard to
keep my interest the first few times.

most all the songs are uptempo which is an improvement just because
special one had too many mid-tempoed songs. i don't think this is as
good as CT '97, however.

anyone notice how much on the short side the songs are? they average 3
and a half minutes, if that, for whatever that's worth. also, i would
like to have seen them work with a decent producer instead of
self-producing. i think an outside set of ears always helps.

the first few times i listened it seemed like robin's vocal could have
been bumped up a little at certain times- like rick turned up his guitar
a bit too much, like he sometimes does live onstage but listening now,
i'm not noticing it as much. bun e. seems to have a lack of his
signature snare fills. i'm hardly noticing him on this album, which
kinda sucks.


1- welcome to the world
don't really like it. a little too la-de-da. reminds me a bit of "they
say it's your birthday" or whatever the exact beatles song title is
(birthday?) but not as happening. sounds like it belongs in disney world
or something (a more rocking "it's a small world afterall"?). not a good
start to an album, imo. sounds like a throwaway. thankfully, only 2
minutes long.

2- perfect stranger
kinda catchy after awhile but it does sound a little bit like they had
help from a hit songwriter, which they did (linda perry). it doesn't
sound totally 'cheap trick' but good enough.

3- if it takes a lifetime
sounds like cheap trick. but more from the later 80's or early 90's,
imo. pretty good but i don't think i like this one *quite* as much as
some others have stated. still, definitely one of the better tracks.

4- come on, come on, come on
not bad but i think the hook gets a little grating. and repetitive.
stronger hook would have made a better song.

5- oh claire
slower tempoed but one of my faves. nah, it is my fave track. liked this
one right off the bat. i like how robin sings this in a higher register.
sounds really sweet. weren't they playing this one live for awhile? the
"just between the 2 of us" part sounds very familiar. anyway, imo, the
album starts to pick up and get stronger starting with this track.

6- not sure of the title- the cd case is out in the car
solid track. sounds like classic cheap trick. nice song, good flow. for
some reason i could see this used in a commercial. kinda jingle-y and
catchy.

7- give it away
uptemo rocker. good track. not a chili peppers' cover, however =) rhcp's
give it away might be my all-time fave song.

8- one more day (?)
starts kinda bluesy. i like how they did the back-up vocals, shadowing
robin's vocal in a chirpy near-whisper. kicks in and rocks during the
chorus. good tune.

9- every night, every day(?)
nice tempo- uptempo but not too fast. fluid, smooth. nice track.

10- tame the night(?)
kinda mid-tempo. alright. not bad but not a fave. not sure i like chorus
so much.

11- all those years
mid-tempoed. nice track, kinda catchy but gets a bit repetitive after
awhile.

12- decaf
starts with a droning riff, moving quickly into a chuggy riff and builds
up tothe chorus. kind of a darker edge to it. good track. reminds me a
little bit of something that might have been on CT '97, i think.



"I am not a tough guy. I'm a tough negotiator. But outside of that, I'm
a patsy."
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Dayna
2006-06-11 22:59:35 UTC
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"brian" <***@sbcnospampleaseglobal.net> wrote in message news:Zqkhg.46785$***@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
I can't stop listening to this song. It is as good as anything on CT97 and
I honestly think it could be a hit. I'd like to see some Old School AMCT
reviews. What do you guys think? My first reaction to the cd was it's
better then "Special One" but no "CT97". I have to say it's getting better
and better every spin and I'm starting to think it may be a truly GREAT
album.

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I can't stop listening to it either. It's an AMAZING song.
And it REALLY hits home for me. I hope they release it
as a single, and it becomes a hit for them. It's wayyyyyyy
better than the first 3 they previewed originally.

Dayna
Mark Mathu
2006-06-12 05:24:16 UTC
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Who is Kim Bullard -- the keyboardist credited on the song? Her/his work
seems especially noticeable in the break starting about 2:55 into the song.
Charles
2006-06-12 21:35:54 UTC
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"Dayna" <***@dot.com> wrote in message news:rf1jg.43714$***@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
I can't stop listening to it either. It's an AMAZING song.
And it REALLY hits home for me. I hope they release it
as a single, and it becomes a hit for them. It's wayyyyyyy
better than the first 3 they previewed originally.

Dayna


I have to say that I am very impressed with Rockford as a whole. For me, it is one of those records that I can listen to all the way through (which is unusual for my aging, cynical ears). I don't have much hope for the band as far as getting a hit song out of this, but sometimes the planets do actually line up. My early favorite is Give It Away. If they play this live I'm afraid that it will only last about 2 minutes, they way they tend to speed through songs now. :) I like the packaging too. I hesitate to make comparisons on just a few listens, but this could float frighteningly high on my unofficial Cheap Trick albums of all time list. It jetted past The Doctor in the first 10 seconds and is approaching The Official Authorized Second Helping of The Remastered Budokan Series Twelve Part B.

Hopefully this will bring AMCT back from the dead. I really have avoided the CT boards lately, it just gets a little silly for me. The whole listening party debacle doesn't help matters. I've been a 1% poster/99% lurker here for almost ten years. I think the fans need a place where things aren't always so sugary sweet. I'll make it a point to post a little more. I've said in the past that one of my biggest joys of the internet is talking about music and Cheap Trick ( and of course, porn). :)

Still in Alabama-Charles
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CraigS
2006-06-13 01:47:56 UTC
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Charles wrote:
It jetted past The Doctor in the first
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10 seconds and is approaching The Official Authorized Second
Helping of The Remastered Budokan Series Twelve Part B.
I'm hoping they re-release that one, with extra bonus crap.
Charles
2006-06-13 14:04:58 UTC
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"CraigS" <***@yahoo.com> wrote > I'm hoping they re-release that one,
with extra bonus crap.

I hear there is a live album coming out called "Bun E.'s Dream Concert", it
goes straight from "Hello There" into "Goodnight Now".

Alabama-Charles
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M.Hart
2006-06-13 21:16:06 UTC
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LOL!!
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one, with extra bonus crap.
I hear there is a live album coming out called "Bun E.'s Dream Concert",
it goes straight from "Hello There" into "Goodnight Now".
Alabama-Charles
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christin
2006-06-14 00:27:14 UTC
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Post by CraigS
with extra bonus crap.
I hear there is a live album coming out called "Bun E.'s Dream Concert", it
goes straight from "Hello There" into "Goodnight Now".
Is this an official authorized release or an addition to the Bun E's
boots collection?
Charles
2006-06-15 02:41:25 UTC
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Post by Charles
I hear there is a live album coming out called "Bun E.'s Dream Concert",
it goes straight from "Hello There" into "Goodnight Now".
Is this an official authorized release or an addition to the Bun E's boots
collection?
It was a special "Music for Gurms Volume 2" to be handed out at the "event"
that never happened.
Theresa (AKA Charli)
2006-06-15 06:21:17 UTC
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On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 19:10:49 GMT, "brian"
Post by brian
I can't stop listening to this song. It is as good as anything on CT97 and
I honestly think it could be a hit. I'd like to see some Old School AMCT
reviews. What do you guys think? My first reaction to the cd was it's
better then "Special One" but no "CT97". I have to say it's getting better
and better every spin and I'm starting to think it may be a truly GREAT
album.
There are a couple songs on this disc I just can't listen to - too
Wham! for me but the second half of the album is solid. I will bet
dollars to donuts, though, that even the songs I like are a whole lot
better live.

I can't think of the title, but I like track #8 the best so far.
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